Actually, I'm beginning to feel a glimmer of hope. Last night Verna put herself to bed and Atha wasn't hard to catch. This morning they pecked, (actually pecked!) at some melon and tonight they both put themselves to bed. I think as soon as I get my errands run in the morning that I will open the gate and let them out into the BIG world....and hope that Roostie doesn't totally spoil their Big Adventure. Heck, maybe they'll like his attention. who knows.